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Форумчанин
Форумчанин
Some datas about Ratas
Dear Deruluft
Yes, the subject is interesting and this is my 2-ed text about Soviet Air Forces during Russian Agression on Poland in IX 1939. According your opinion -"which is wrong and this is flase name. It was a simple very small war, when about 1.500 Russian was killed and next 2.000 injured. Russian had killed/ also mordered many times about 6.500-7.500 Polish soldiers in IX-X 1939" it was "Oswobotitelnyj pochod".
Ad rem:
The first text was edited spilted into two parts:
1. Soviet Aviation in War over Poland, September 1939. Lotnictwo sowieckie w wojnie nad Polską wrzesień 1939 roku, cz. 2; p. 6, 7 b&w photos, both parts 65.000 signes, [in:] Militaria i Fakty 5-6/2003.
2. Soviet Aviation in War over Poland, September 1939 vol. I. Lotnictwo sowieckie w wojnie nad Polską wrzesień 1939 r. cz. 1; p. 5, 7 b&w photos, [in:] Militaria i Fakty 4/2003.
This next one is a development and upgarded version of this 1-st. Text was done according Soviet document and Polish materials (cross-checking like memories, decuments).
Knowing very well your both materials printed in Russia (1999-2001 -Kotielnikov+Stiepanov) I think both mine are simple better ones.
There are for example the OdB for Rusian invasion air forces (according your documents, reports, ect.). Which Russian materials do not have at all. Also such a thing like commanders of Bialorussiand and Ukrainin Fronts VVS are not given too.
As you know many Soviet documents (not all becasue Russian archivist deliberatly had hidden some parts of records in about 1992-94 from the Polish state official historian mission, which worked in your archives then). Dispite this Russian "deeply friendships" archive policy a lot of documents (xeros) were handed over for Poles historians. Of course the documents were before deliberatly selected by Russian "smart" archivist.
The works written by prof. Czesław Grzelak are done according this materials, which despite Russian attitude towards Poles historians are quite substative but of course do not have all data.
Ad rem
The text "Ratas over Poland" has >32.000 signes and is written in Polish, only English captions under the photos.
In my material I have found that Soviets did shot down 5 Polish planes (the well know case of air combat P.11c of ppor. W. Miksa of 114. Esk. Mysliwska is included).
The lasts air clashes over Poland were in October 1939 when Soviet I-16 of most probably 4. IAP twice attacked a Polish PWS-26 (it could be on 1 and 4 X 1939). In one case this Polish PWS-26 was force landed (slightly damged returned to flying very soon, Soviets did made several holes in PWS and later strafed it on the ground).
Regards,
Mirek Wawrzynski
PS
BTW What is your name Mr Deruluft?
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